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Copyright 2003-2023 | Outreach, Inc., All rights reserved. It doesnt. Beth and Priscilla both teach a false Jesus and a false gospel. Rebekah gave the servant water but also volunteered to water the 10 camels as well. Do you think the stretching feels good? There are
He wants you to learn good theology and sound doctrine.
(Also, their main genre is apologetics, not discernment.) 1 Samuel 30: 6 And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his
unbiblical) meditation. Paul refuted public false teaching publicly many times. I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help you better understand Gods role for women in the church. You are teaching me and I didnt even realize it! What do you consider important/non-important and vital/non-vital, and on which Scriptures do you make these distinctions? Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ..
Priscilla partners and associates with false teachers such as Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine,Joel and Victoria Osteen, Beth Moore, and T.D. How I wish I could ask him what he thinks of his heathen saving methods now that he has seen the face of Jesus!). Feel free to e-mail me (MichelleLesley1@yahoo.com) if it would be easier for you. Having just heard what efforts even St. Paul had to make to run in the Christian race, and how terribly their fathers in the wilderness had failed to meet the requirements of God, they might be inclined to throw up every effort in despair. Heres why. Which is why it grieves me to have to answer that question with: Her theology. Unfortunately, there are serious red flags about some of the things Priscilla does and teaches that Christian women who follow her, or are considering following her, need to be made aware of. Genesis 24:1-4. Go beyond what's fair. Matthew 28:1-20, Denomination:
Looking back over my copy of He Speaks to Me,and sifting through numerous videos of her teaching, its clearthat her method of teaching is mainly eisegesis. This article really turned me off on her. Romans 16:17-18 tells us were to mark false teachers and avoid them. Or and be .. The third, Chris Rosebrough, is Lutheran (AALC), and much of his theology is in line with Reformed theology. With all that said, I do not say any of this out of ill intent, anger, or anything along those lines, I simply wanted to clarify, and say, that I agree with Michelles exegesis of (Matthew. Thank you so much for your consideration, 2 Kings 5:1-15 I do not think the bible says anything about women speaking in public as long as their not pastors, and she is not talking to men she is talking to ladies. Tonight at church he came up and thanked me for sharing and said he hated that these studies got past him. Our young ministry assistant, a woman, is using Discerning Gods Voice for our womens Bible study. Did you feel any kind of fear? Unfortunately, Word Press doesnt show me that kind of thing until after Ive published my own comment. Are they guiding and leading a flock (a church)? I am curious about this comment, I realize this post is old so I dont know if it will be read however, based on the above article and your statements in your article referenced at the top this man who is talking about reading from your blog and learning from you is sinning by being under your teaching. There's more to my answer than you might think. 5:7 ). Pink Impact ConferencePriscilla joined with faith healing apostle of the New Apostolic Reformation, Todd White, as well as false teachers Christine Caine, Lisa Harper, and Pastor Debbie Morris. The MEGA Live Event July 23rd, 2021 Tulips & Honey. It is teachers like Priscilla who want us to base our beliefs on our feelings and experiences, and that is not biblical. We only get to have the opinions of Christ as stated in the Bible. You should learn from us not to go beyond what is written in Scripture. 2And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: The Bible doesnt say anywhere that because only two people out of two million entered the Promised Land that only a handful of people will be able to experience (theres that word again) what weve learned on the pew.. Ive fixed it (as well as a few others that have expired). Do you interpret scripture to mean women should not witness to all people; share the gospel message to all nations not just other women or children? My exact words were: I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. Since I made that comment, Ive seen several endorsements of Priscilla Shirer and her materials by Tony Evans, so I guess that tells us his perspective and the fact that hes not very discerning. THERE WERE
The last verse was a warning; this is an encouragement. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart . If you're new or would like to comment, please see the "Welcome- Start Here" tab at the top of this page. He was one of the founding fathers of the heretical Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation movement and a mentor to Ken Copeland, whos also a Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation heretic. These are just a few of the dozens of examples available on YouTube and elsewhere of Priscilla Shirer preaching to men. No-one is beyond reach. MATTHEW 14:16
She admits it. I am a born again Christian. Though there are others, these are the major doctrinal errors in this video, which is less than four minutes of teaching from Priscilla. Jude 18-19. It often times fails. And then help teach it to other women. I wish this particular writer would have more clearly defined what he means by silence. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. Going Beyond the Bible by Colin Morris. I couldnt find these terms in my Bible! It is a sad irony that Priscilla Shirer opted to name her ministry Going Beyond, because this is exactly what she is choosing to do right now. #4b- This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. No, this is a promotional clip in which Priscilla not only makes several incorrect biblical assertions, she uses those incorrect assertions as the foundation of this Bible study she has written. Scripture:
Baptist. I KNOW this is your website and if I dont like it or cant relate to or dont understand what your position is on a particular topic~ I have the choice to stop reading. Id also like to recommend my article thats linked at the very top of this page: Answering the Opposition. Pray With Us Jan 12, 2023 Hi Friends! She has no control over who reads her blogs.
After the service, people went by the preacher, tired and exhausted. And to top that all off, shes beautiful and sharp as a tack. 3And I will make thee swear by
FOCAL POINT: TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS MUST AVOID. and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. - Jonah didnt smell good.
Glad to know i am not the only dude that reads this wonderful sisters blog.
Bible Study Workbooks Priscilla's studies help believers to know the truths of Scripture intellectually and encourage them to experience these truths practically by the power of the Holy Spirit. God doesnt limit to a select few the number of Christians who are able to grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus the way He limited entrance to the Promised Land. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? It just says dont. Period. I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. Hey brother Saiko Woods! Priscilla Shirer: Living Your Life For Christ (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (February 18, 2021) Priscilla speaks at Christine Caines Propel Womens Conference. You are spot on. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. (These are not exhaustive lists, I just havent gotten to the next installmets yet :0) Do keep in mind that there are many fantastic male teachers out there, and its perfectly fine for women/womens groups to use materials written by men. As Joshua was facing the end of his life, he challenged the people to chose, the choice they would make would define them as a people. Check it out and learn about modesty and biblical decision-making.
It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective.. Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; ), partnering with false teachers (thank you for noting this! She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own, It Should Happen Rarely, But It Shouldnt Be Ignored | The Outspoken TULIP, Is Priscilla Shirer false teacher? There are two crucial reasons for this. :0), She also hangs out with Beth Moore. Elizabeth. Amber, you seem like a very dear sister, and I love you. As Christians, the Bible is our authority, so its what the Bible says that matters, and thats what I point women to. But when an author rebukes another Christian publicly, as you have Ms. Shirer, than perhaps they may be asked to clarify further? She was the chosen bride, not for doing the minimum, but for going beyond the expected. Thanks so much for your comment. Furthermore (since Priscilla looks to tangible experiences and anecdotal evidence as support for her ideas), both anecdotal church history and the experiences of Christians who are alive today prove this idea to be false. Sometimes the Bible can be difficult because it steps on our toes, but I promise, I will always point you Scripture, not to stories, fluff, false doctrine, or your own opinions, feelings, and experiences. Yes it is the little people or the less known that are standing against these deceptions and I am so glad that you are and there are many more. Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. And the Bible says that women are not to preach to or instruct men, or to hold authority over men in the gathered body of Believers, the church. Romans 16:17-18, They said to you, In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. The New Testament knows nothing of a Christian whos satisfied just to escape hell. This was very interesting thanks for putting this out there. It was an immediate NO after I listened to less than 1 minute of her reference about Oprah. Jesus taught us the way He wanted us to pray. Then please feel free to ask Id be glad to help you or look it up.
I didnt know I was reading and studying scripture wrong. Parables were a common form of teaching in Judaism ( to lead us to self-examination) (https://www.osv.com/Magazines/TheCatholicAnswer/ByIssue/Article/TabId/809/ArtMID/13667/ArticleID/16800/Why-Did-Jesus-Use-Parables.aspx) (oops~ this is a Catholic reference~ how bout this one: - But such as is common to man; rather, except such as is human; i.e. We are committed to teaching the uncompromising truths of His Word. Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. You do not have to know whether or not Im a credible source to examine the evidence in light of Scripture and come to the conclusion that she is sinning. There are two sources for fear: when we are caught up in something we did not count on, and when we are not in control. She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. Its very easy to think of Priscilla and think, Whats not to love?. I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, I am asking the following question to understand your doctrinal views. 5.
First, just because youve never heard of someone doesnt mean hes not a credible source (likewise just because someone is well known doesnt mean he is a credible source). Together with her husband, Jerry, she heads up Going Beyond Ministries. Likewise I will not listen to Beth or Priscilla despite the fact that they are both Southern Baptist {as am I} because they teach false doctrine. Luke 9:1-10:20, Denomination:
But, yes, sometimes I do offer to send someone Im talking to (face to face) links to my articles, other peoples articles, books, sermons, etc., if theyd like to study an issue more. If so, then she is well aware of what the Bible says about these issues. Holy cow! The Holy Spirit decided that what this church needed to combat that false teaching was a refresher course in Christology (the study of Christ- who He was, what He did, and why). That's a possibility, but a better plan is that Scripture is Holy Spirit inspired. The original promo video I used for this article has been deleted, {so I replaced it with the one above}, but in the original video, Priscilla goes on to say) Thats one in a million. Examples: when we
Unfortunately, they depend on LifeWay to deliver sound material. No, Im not violating Scripture by teaching men when they read or comment on my blog. What is a defining moment? I am currently getting familiar with blogs for Christian ladies and your thorough, scholarly, biblical recommendations are absolutely invaluable. I think youll also find my article Is She a False Teacher? - Jonah 2:10. Well since thats the case, why dont you study and agree with what the Bible says? The youtube video you offer here in your post is not available and Id kind of like to see what you were talking about. - Femina Sola Gratia Is she a false teacher?
Personal experiences can be evidence of the truth of rightly handled and understood Scripture, but not vice versa. Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. Stories such as these are easily remembered, the characters bold, and the symbolism rich in meaning. Do you have other references to their false teaching? Do you send women to your articles as a response? Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. Lord, thank You that You are the Good Shepherd and You speak and we hear Your voice. I can tell that just from your comment. Pastor Chris Rosebrough explains why Priscillas twisting of John 10 to mean that we can hear God speak to us is unbiblical. She does. Choose What Is Right: A Study in Discernment ~ Lesson 1- Introduction, Going Beyond Scripture: Why It's Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, The Mailbag: Celebrity Christian Hot Takes (Driscoll, Graham, Groeschel, Lewis, Lucado, Piper, Vallotton), Leaving Lysa: Why You Shouldn't Be Following Lysa TerKeurst or Proverbs 31 Ministries, Doctrinally Sound Christian Men to Follow - 1, Bible Gateway- Fantastic concordance and other Bible tools, CARM- Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, Christian Answers for the New Age (Marcia Montenegro). , tired and exhausted by email much of his theology is in line with Reformed theology like very! This out there wish this particular writer would have more clearly defined what he means by silence are they from... 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